Looking for the Greens

Dec 3, 2011
Issue 1339

Saturday, December 03, 2011

Rande Bly of Birmingham, Alabama promised another green article and here it is.

Hi Alan

Here is the article explaining the issue with Antique Green

I have a Steuben flower frog in what is now being called Antique Green. It has a strong glowing reaction under black light and contains uranium. There is no uranium in the formula for Antique Green. The formula for Antique Green is copper-manganese-iron-cobalt oxides . That sounds like one for a dark green. When you add iron ( used to make flint brown) and cobalt(used to make Flemish) it seems to me the green would be dark.

I totally agree with Paul Gardner’s notation to the possibility that Antique Green was this dark shade of green in color plate XXII B. goblet far right

Miriam Webster mentions in the definition of antique green that there is a shade of gray. (Mr Carder researched the history and use of colors from around the world) (I noticed the wisp of gray in my 366 vase)

Antique green is sometimes used to describe the color of an antique deep green wine bottle. Mr Carder used the same color very early at Steuben. You will often see this color in very low shape numbers as demonstrated with the 336 vase. I have sold this color as Antique Green for a long time. It seemed to loose popularity soon after and not a lot of it was produced at Steuben.Now back to the lighter shade of green. The one with uranium in it. I guess with uranium in it it cannot be Antique Green so then what is it? I don’t know of any Steuben name for this color. In Carder’s note book there is a color called English Antique that has uranium in it I felt would be worth testing?I have the 366 vase that can be tested for the above formula to Antique Green. If we were to get one more green confirmed that would only leave two.

#2 Antique Green (unconfirmed)
Unknown Green

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