BY-LAW VOTING

1. I am not in total agreement with Marshall Ketchum. Many organizations require attendance in order to vote…………

Jo Ann Godawa

2. I am also in favor of all paid members being able to vote on the issue of expanding the club to include Post- Carder Steuben glass. I hope that at the business meeting the Charter could be amended and the issue discussed and then a mail ballot sent out ..

Barbara Iglewski

3. ON APRIL 22,1994 A LETTER WAS SENT TO MY MOTHER AND MYSELF THAT THE ”EX-BOARD HAD JUST PASSED A BY-LAWS, THAT WOULD ALLOW, US THE MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR OFFIICERS AND TRUSTEES BY “MAIL”.

THAT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO, A FEW NAME CHANGES,AND NO DOUBT, A FEW OTHER CHANGES AGO.

THIS WAS ONLY 20 YEARS AGO AND NOW DAYS WE , THE MEMBERS ARE BEING TOLD BY SOME THAT IF WE ARE NOT THERE THIS FALL WE CAN NOT VOTE ON CLUB MATTERS. WHAT IS THE BOARD DOING TO THIS CLUB? IF IN 1994 WE COULD VOTE BECAUSE IF WE WERE IN HOSPITALS, SONS WEDDING ETC. ARE SOME GOOD REASONS WHY A “MEMBER”CAN NOT MAKE IT, BUT THE BOARD HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY==NOT HERE NO VOTE.

Bob Mueller, Minneapolis

POST CARDER GLASS NAME

1. This is tricky. To call it “Houghton Steuben” or “Houghton Era Steuben” does not properly apply to Steuben made post-millenium, or during the brief Schottenstein ownership. To call it “Modern Steuben” suggests Modernist design, and much (but not all) of it through the 1950s could indeed fall into that category. But soon afterward, Steuben’s design became much more eclectic, so “Modern Steuben” doesn’t really fit. Post-Carder or Post-1932 Steuben are names less limiting than the other monikers. I think the defining characteristic of all this “post Carder” glass is its pure, colorless clarity and high index of refraction…not easy to define in one or two words.

Mary Jean Madigan

2. Wish I could be more helpful. . “Colorless Steuben” sounds soul-less and isn’t entirely accurate as color was reintroduced in some notable pieces late on.

Yet that might be the thing that initially, at least, was paramount in marketing (and thus, in public perception). “Clear Steuben Glass” ? “Color-free Steuben” ? Do collectors of Carder glass also collect Clear? And vice versa? I look forward to learning more about collecting at the symposium!

Mary Jean Madigan

Ed. MJ Madigan will be a presenter at this year’s Symposium “Asian Artists in Crystal: Steuben’s Footnote to Cold War Diplomatic History 1954 – 1956”. A discussion of the 36 exquisite modernist engraved sculptures from artists in 16 countries created at the behest of the US government during the Eisenhower administration.

MJ (Mary Jean) Madigan – Author

3. IN ALL THE YEARS OF COLLECING OF CARDER STEUBEN I ALSO GREW UP WITH THE USE OF MODERN STEUBEN.

MY MOTHER HAD SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 300 CATALOGS FROM STEUBEN AT THE TIME BEFORE HER DEATH. IN ALL THOSE CATALOGS SHE HAD , THERE WERE MORE BY FAR THAT HAD THE TITLE ON THE COVER “STEUBEN CRYSTAL”. YES THERE WERE A FEW TITLED “MODERN” MODERN CRYSTAL, “STEUBEN CRYSTAL” BUT THE TITLE SEEMED TO BE THERE BY FAR MORE THEN ANY OTHER TITLE.

Bob Mueller, Minneapolis

4. Since we are trying to come up with what to call “modern Steuben” I will put in my two cents worth.

I totally disagree with the latest contribution of “colorless Steuben”. Carder made colorless Steuben and the term “colorless Steuben” doesn’t make it unique to the post Carder Steuben. “Clear Steuben” is a poor substitute since “clear” and “colorless” do not describe the same thing. Celeste Blue is clear i.e. transparent but not colorless.

My choice would be “post Carder Steuben” as it almost uniquely defines Steuben made after Carder lost control of the company. I could live with “post 1932 (or 1933) Steuben” as long as one is describing the design and not the production. There were orders for Carder glass filled until the early 1940s. I could also live with “Modern Steuben” while it doesn’t seem to be as good. I would disagree with any description that involved “colorless crystal” or “clear crystal” or similar phrases.

Marshall Ketchum

5. I am totally in support of MJ Madigan’s suggestion…..that was my suggestion before I read her paragraph. Post Carder Steuben is really the only name that fits if I was making the choice. Steuben Crystal includes the Carder years for me…..I fought to get that idea agreed to by the group when I was running the business. The 100th anniversary for Steuben in 2003 only worked if you agreed that the Steuben business began making products in 1903 with colored glass……otherwise the 2003 anniversary was not a 100 year anniversary. So…for me it is all Steuben Crystal. And then I agree with the thinking that MJ represented regarding the other 2 names.I am only one vote….but that would be my response.

Marie McKee, President, CMoG

6. Well, I agree that “Post Carder Steuben” is probably best; “Post 1932 Steuben” is kind of awkward and the others are just confusing.

Jane Spillman

2013 Carder Steuben Club annual Symposium will be held at The Corning Museum of Glass in Corning, NY from September 19-21, 2013. The festivities will begin with Frederick Carder’s 150th birthday celebration on the evening of September 18, 2013.

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