Thursday, June 30, 2011

See the following give and take of a glass collectors’ argument. It starts with our Gazette of two days ago (#1125) where the following piece of glass was identified as a Hawkes perfume.

Scott Hansen replies: I was surprised to see this piece labeled as a perfume. I always thought it was a 2827 Decanter (Gardner page 185). Do you have information that it was sold as a perfume?

Alan Shovers then responds to Scott with a “take this”: Scott, you’re right; but, are you right? I have always identified this as a #2827 as listed at p. 185 of Gardner. However, the classifications are arbitrarily chosen by Gardner, not Mr. Carder or Steuben. In looking at this with its very narrow neck I don’t think it is practical to use this as a decanter. Therefore, it sits on Susan’s dressing table and it’s a cologne bottle. Alan

Scott isn’t going to let me get away with that and seeks the last word when he says: Alan –

What, then, does Susan do with the matching cordial that goes with the bottle? Mine is engraved VDS (marked Hawkes) and the cordial (also marked Hawkes) is engraved in the same pattern. No Scotch or Bourbon in mine but occasionally perhaps an aperitif like sherry or lillet. So, I vote decanter. You say tomato, I say tomahto.

Scott

A number of #2827 bottles can be found at the Carder Steuben Club website, along with its factory records that show this shape includes the bottle and a related cordial. Take a look at Shape Gallery Index for shape #2827 at

http://cardersteubenclub.org/shapes/results-view.cfm?keyword=1&category=Shape Index

www.cardersteubenclub.org

2011 Carder Steuben Club annual Symposium will be held at The Corning Museum of Glass in Corning, NY from September 15-17, 2011.

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