Some Additional Commentary on Ivrene

Jan 25, 2015
Issue 2143

Thanks for Sending In this Intarsia Picture

from Michael Krumme of Los Angeles

Hi Alan,

I read with interest the Carder comment quoted in the Gardner book, in the January 16 Gazette Gazelle (#2037):

“Glass should be transparent or translucent–not opaque!” was his answer whenever lovers of milk-white glass asked why he did not make items of this popular color.

I understand the reason for Carder’s comment, the overarching quality of the medium of glass being the way light affects it. However, as a collector of black glass, I think that there is something to be said for opaque glass. I realize that at Steuben it was used chiefly as trim (lids, handles, threading, bases, etc.) But obviously some all-black items were made. I wonder, was this made with some reluctance by Carder, to cater to market forces (black being a popular glass color in the late 20s and early 30s), or a grudging admission that some shapes look really dramatic in black? One need only take a look at the (cardersteubenclub.org)shape gallery to see some striking examples, such as the 2956 candlesticks
, 5155 compote, and 6873 and 6968 vases.

Consensus?

from Rande Bly of Birmingham, AL

David Chadwick- Brown has a point. Marina and Antique Green could probably be confused with each other easier than Sea Green and Antique Green. I personally see plenty of gray in Antique Green and much more aqua blue in Marina. The 2956 candlestick seems to throw a lot of gray to me. I pulled from the CSC website a picture of a candlestick in Marina and one of a sherbet in Antique Green in a similar thickness to the 2956 candlestick to compare.

#2956

Marina

Antique Green

Symposium 2025
Carder Steuben Glass Association
19-20 September 2025
© Carder Steuben Glass Association Inc.