Redlands Museum Glass Identification – Continued

Jan 21, 2013
Issue 1655

Query

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This piece does not have an HGM inventory number that fits with the rest of the dentist’s donation but the tag on the piece says it is signed by Frederick Carder. This was confirmed by a 1995 video where this piece was spotlighted and it was said that Carder signed it. There is no height given for it on the label but it sits next to an 8″ vase (that isn’t really a vase) and it is about 2 inches taller. I actually have been trying to figure out some of these pieces and it seems to me that this one is similar to at least one vase on the Carder Steuben website. The shape is not right but that vase is 6390 which is gold aurene over alabaster and acid etched. I will need to measure the exact height of it when I next go to the museum. Joann Tortarolo

9 1/2 inches high

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Response to Request for Identification

Hi Joann,

I am not aware of Steuben making such a decoration. Also, the crudeness of execution, compared to other, documented Steuben a.c.b. ware, argues against it being theirs. Look carefully at the details that are etched into the figure — they almost look engraved-in to me, rather than created by the use of acids.

As you can imagine, many Steuben “signatures” are spurious, as there is a lot of motivation to “make” things that aren’t Steuben Steuben.

Michael Krumme

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Any other thoughts on identifcation?

Next Item for Identification

Query

This is HGM Steuben No 4. The label on the piece states that it is a Steuben 8″ vase in aurene. The pattern is described as “inverted rim above waisted neck.” It is unmarked. Again, I have been busy on the Carder Steuben website and it seems to me to be the 8″ cologne (shape number 6440) with no stopper. Joann Tortarolo

Gold Aurene Cologne

Shape #6440

(click picture to link to factory records)

8 inches high

Response to Request for Identification

Joann

I agree. I believe that his is a Gold Aurene 6440. You might check the inside of the neck to see if it has a ground glass surface. That would tell you if it ever had a stopper. The factory records don’t name it and it may have been intended to be a vase.

Marshall Ketchum

Next Item for Identification

This is HGM Steuben No 5. The description on the label is that it is a Steuben 11 3/4″ vase. It is aurene and is unmarked. It is described as having a “lobed rim above bulbous body.”

All of these descriptions were done by an appraiser and are characteristic of the type of wording that might be used. The donor’s will said that the HGM was to be given all of the Steuben glass. The HGM president at that time was not a glass collector so took an appraiser with him to identify the Steuben from of all of the donor’s cabinets. The appraiser then completed an appraisal for the donor’s estate and that apparently is the source of these descriptions. Joann Tortarolo

Gold Aurene Two Pillar Vase

Shape #7281

(click on picture to link to factory records)

11 3/4 Inches High

Response

Joann

This is Steuben shape 7281 in Gold Aurene and is a 2 line pillar and while it resembles a Grotesque shape the factory did not consider it as such. Shape 7281 was made in a 7″ size, a 10″ size and it appears also a 12″ size.

Marshall Ketchum

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