Rande Bly, His discussion of Red Jade Glass.

Dec 14, 2010
Issue 1015

I have more on Carder’s Red Mystery glass. I do believe I have it figured out. I have been teasing about it for two years in my articles and later came to find I can prove it. I hadn’t yet mentioned that it can come with a clear coating.

“Jane O’Donnell got me going again on it when she sent me her picture of her Carder Red Vase with clear coating known in the photo’s as the paper label vase. My first response to her was don’t sell the Rouge Flambe yet. After a series of back yard tests on the vase two days later I determined it was not. One more day to think about it and I said to her that this was not an easy project. I said to identify it would take about a year and be just like pushing an elephant uphill with a rope. To add insult to injury I stated the hard part about the project was that it would not be possible without me showing what Cardinal Red was and I had no proof. About 6 months later here we are.

“Today I will include pictures of the paper label vase with clear coat side view and bottom view, the Skinner Medieval Pattern ACB red vase with clear coat, and a black and white photo of MedievalACB pattern in Jade Green from Ericson’s book2 page 75.You will see that the black and white photo and the Skinner vase match exactly. The first time the Skinner vase was compared it was compared to the line drawing like you will find in Dimitroff page 263 where it is portrayed with 4 Griffins. There was concern over the differences. Now with the Ericson black and white photo which is 45 years old (way too long ago to fake the Jade Green piece) we can see the Skinner Vase is authentic and an exact match to the Jade Green Vase. It is also the exact same shape. The Skinner ACB vase with clear casing is a perfect glass match to Jane O’Donnell’s paper label red vase with clear casing. This time being the only difference is they are different shapes and one has ACB cutting. The Skinner blank before cutting would have looked just like Jane’s paper label vase just different shape number.

“These are NOT Rouge FlambĂ© pieces but they are obviously Steuben Red. This color has been around and hiding in the bushes for 45 years that I know of. David Chadwick-Brown’s plate is signed with an authentic acid stamp Flur de Lis Steuben in banner signature. This is about where the facts end. We have the examples of the glass. It resembles Rouge Flambe. We have found un stirred swirls of some Alabaster? in the signed plate we examined. Cool. What are we going to call it? Red Jade? (selenium/ cadmium sulfide) Jade?

“Rouge FlambĂ©? Let’s not dwell on it’s name right now. We will get to that soon enough. Let’s just digest the thought we have a new yet old Carder Steuben Red Glass. Wow this is major.”
Rande Bly

Any opinions expressed by participants to the Gazette are the opinions of the authors and are not endorsed by or the opinions of the Carder Steuben Club.

Symposium 2024
Carder Steuben Glass Association
20-21 September 2024
© Carder Steuben Glass Association Inc.