Query

Jan 23, 2013
Issue 1657

This is HGM Steuben No 8. The label on it reads “Steuben 5″ vase…green iridescent” and the pattern is described as “lobed rim above ovoid body.” Nothing about a mark so there must not be one.

Joann Tortarolo

Response on Identification

Joann

I have no idea who made this. It almost certainly wasn’t made by Steuben.

Marshall Ketchum

Opinion: Not Steuben Possible Lotez Rande Bly

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Next piece for identification

This is HGM Steuben No 9. The label on the piece says it is a Steuben bud vase (no height given). Color is described as verre de souie. It is marked on the underside “WGA.” I did some research on the Carder Steuben web site and believe it is shape #2744 in blue aurene.

Joann Tortarolo

Response

I would agree that this is Steuben shape 2744 in Blue Aurene. The “WGA” mark is probably someones initials as it is not a normal Steuben mark. Shape 2744 was made in 6″, 7″, 8″, 10″ and 12″ sizes. It was made in a wide variety of colors.

Marshall Ketchum

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Agreed, I have heard the terms. Thorn Vase, Trunk Vase, and Stump Vase – slang terms probably not Steuben terms but none the less often used.

Rande Bly

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1. Who is the Maker and; 2. When was it made?(Acid Etched Vase)

It would help to see the bottom of the vase to see the pontil area to help determine who made it but The carved vase with Egyptian motif looks like a contemporary art glass piece.
It could have been carved by Maryalice Hawkes for one artist or Kathleen Orme. They get their blanks from various glass studios.

Shari Maxson Hopper, Paradise, California

Query

Willson Craigie of Richmond, Virginia asks:

“These identifications (ed. Redlands Museum) are interesting……, could you add a date range for each item? Thank you”

Response to Request for Identification

Willson, your question reminded me of John Hotchkiss’ book, Carder’s Steuben Glass Handbook and Price Guide. At pages 13-14 the author says, “As far as presently known , each design of a Steuben Glass item from the inception in 1903 to at least 1933 was given the next higher serial number at the time it was put into production. … It must be kept in mind that the date the number was first used does not necessarily indicate the age of a piece. Some popular items were manufactured over a relatively long span of years. …The number is a a means of assigning the earliest possible date of manufacture. …

For the present, as a start toward a table which might relate the serial design number to earliest date of manufacture, the following is offered”

Factory # First Date of Manufacture

#1 – #500 1903-1908

#500 – #1,000 1908-1914

#1000-#2,500 1914-1918

#2,500-#7,500 1918-1929

#7,500-#8,500 1929-1932

Alan Shovers

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