Symposium

September 15-17 in Corning, NY

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A Guided Tour of Carder Gallery

A guided tour of the Carder Gallery is one of the sessions at the Symposium. click here
in the center for a panoramic view of the back wall of the Carder Gallery.

Some Clarification

Beth Shaut expanding on David Goldstein’s comments on Rouge Flambé.

The Rouge Grotesque was purchase by an old time collector/ dealer who brought it to the Corning show but The Rockwell’s were on a trip to England at the time with the Rockwell Museum to see Mr. Carder’s home and several Carder points of interest and also the British Museum. After They came back from their trip we had them send the piece here for them to see. Bobby said it was German as he had seen several Grotesque style pieces shown in the European area at the British Museum. One aspect of the German pieces was that they were translucent and the Carder piece were opaque. It was also slightly lighter in weight and the base wasn’t the normal pillar base form. They had paid $10,000.00 for it and the people they bought it from wanted in writing that it wasn’t Steuben before they would give their money back. We also advise them in the letter to contact the British Museum.

Another View on Rouge

from Rande Bly

Rouge Flambe was not produced 1915-1917. From 1914 to 1918 Carder was working with the approximate shape numbers 1000- 2500. From 1918 to 1929 Carder was working with the approximate shape numbers 2500-7500. A concentration of Rouge Flambe shows up in the form of vases with the known shape numbers 6459, 6487, 6490, 6491, 6492, 6493, 6494, 6499, 6500, 6501, 6703, 6741, 6742.

The first Grotesque vase I have showing is 7089 with the Grotesque 7535 trailing not far behind. Shape 6742 in Rouge Flambe to Grotesque shape 7089 is only 347 shape numbers apart. These should be within a year of each other. None of the 13 Rouge Flambe vases in the six thousand’s were made anywhere close to 1915-1917. Production of Rouge Flambe was placed around 1926.

I have heard of the mistaken 1915 to 1917 time period for Rouge Flambe before and believe it came from confusing it with the production dates of Mandarin Yellow. Many people think Mandarin Yellow and Rouge Flambe came out at the same time when in fact they were about 10 years apart. Factory records show Carder was working with Rouge Flambe Vases and Grotesque vases not any more than a year apart.

People are afraid of Rouge Flambe due to the limited information and high sticker price. I have heard many a story about the good piece that has slipped through their fingers due to their uncertainty and unwillingness to take the risk only to regret it later. I would have to say if I ever picked up what even looked like a Rouge Flambe 7535 Grotesque you could never pry it from my fingers until I completed the purchase. My heart goes out to any person who has held one and put it back down.

There is more of it out there than we think. I just listed 13 shapes of it and if only 10 pieces were made in each of those shapes that would be 130 pieces. There is quite a few more shapes I did not list like bowls, plates, tumblers, toothbrush holders, and the Limousine Vase.

Part of collecting is sticking your neck out there and taking a chance now and then. How else are you going to get a piece of Steuben Burmese, Shaded Ruby. Glue Chip, Amberina, Mandarin Yellow, or Cadmium Ruby which are all way more rare than Rouge Flambe?

Carder Steuben Glass Auction

Don’t you just love an auction? How about one full of Carder Steuben glass? Even better, right? The Carder Steuben Club is once again holding its annual fundraising auction on Saturday, September 17 after the Club’s Banquet Dinner in conjunction with the Carder Steuben Symposium. Members and friends of the Club donate or consign Carder Steuben glass, modern Steuben, Carder or Corning glass related items to be auctioned. A 10% buyer’s premium is added to all items sold. Think about it – when was the last time you only paid a 10% buyer’s premium?

Make your plans to attend the Carder Steuben Symposium NOW! You won’t want to miss the deals at the auction! Details, program and registration materials can be found at www.cardersteubenclub.com

Anyone interested in contributing items to the auction should complete the auction form located on the Club’s website, or contact the auction Chairman, Mark Chamovitz at mchamovitz@flypittsburgh.com