5000 Shape Number Series

Feb 1, 2013
Issue 1664

In Gazelle Gazette #1659 Scott Hansen pointed out that it is a mystery why most of the 5000 series numbers are missing. Marshall Ketchum’s book indicates that the highest number in this series is #5233. On July 21, 1921, George B. Hollister, the CGW sales manager, released a report that listed the 167 shape numbers that would comprise the “standard line” of Steuben ware. All other numbers were deemed obsolete. The list of the standard numbers is published as a footnote on page 49 0f Tom Dimitroff’s book. The last number listed is #5230, very close to the last number in the 5000 series (5233). When new designs were eventually needed, the remaining 5000 numbers were skipped with the new series beginning with #6000. This indicates that shape numbers 5234 to 5999 never existed and are not “lost.”

At the time the standard line appeared, Carder had the title of corporate art director and had no direct authority over Steuben. On May 10, 1923, Carder was reinstated as director of the Steuben Division, and perhaps he decided to make a fresh start and begin with #6000.

Ed Bush, Painted Post, New York

One More from Redlands

This is HGM Steuben No 18. The label describes it as a Steuben 2 1/4″ cup in yellow and alabaster. Joan Tortarolo

Stevens & Williams

This is an example of a Stevens & Williams piece in their version of yellow jade and alabaster. There were a number of the S & W jades made. Some of the colors are easy to tell from Steuben because Steuben never made them. The green and rosaline versions are the most difficult to differentiate from Steuben. The yellow is lighter and brighter than Steuben’s version. Marshall Ketchum

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